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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Emacs client by Websites tagged "shotcut" on Postsaver</title>
		<link>http://www.ventonegro.org/2008/04/the-emacs-client/#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>Websites tagged "shotcut" on Postsaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Bibliography of Programming Languages Implementation by Finlay McWalter</title>
		<link>http://www.ventonegro.org/2008/07/bibliography-of-programming-languages-implementation/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Finlay McWalter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's also Simon Peyton-Jones' "The Implementation of Functional Programming Languages", wherein we learn to implement something that resembles Haskell in something that resembles Haskell slightly less.  It's available for free online:

http://research.microsoft.com/~simonpj/Papers/slpj-book-1987/start.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also Simon Peyton-Jones&#8217; &#8220;The Implementation of Functional Programming Languages&#8221;, wherein we learn to implement something that resembles Haskell in something that resembles Haskell slightly less.  It&#8217;s available for free online:</p>
<p><a href="http://research.microsoft.com/~simonpj/Papers/slpj-book-1987/start.htm" rel="nofollow">http://research.microsoft.com/~simonpj/Papers/slpj-book-1987/start.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Call me a whiner by paulo leitão vilar</title>
		<link>http://www.ventonegro.org/2008/09/call-me-a-whiner/#comment-339</link>
		<dc:creator>paulo leitão vilar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fala cara, como vai? só escreve em inglês agora eh :P</description>
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		<title>Comment on Toy Scheme interpreter in Lua by Recent Faves Tagged With "lexicalscope" : MyNetFaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Recent Faves Tagged With "lexicalscope" : MyNetFaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Not luck by geophf</title>
		<link>http://www.ventonegro.org/2008/08/not-luck/#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>geophf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your analysis of my entry.  I concur.

You also wrote: "This post only reinforces what was already in the back of my mind for a while: The least hard way to earn money and be happy at the same time is to start an own business."  I would caution you from my experience: I didn't start my business until after I had a customer with a check waiting for a TIN.  On top of that, having a business in functional/logic programming very, very rarely attracts interested customers.  So one must, at times, resort to helping them over and above what they request.  For example, I had to manage the entire life-cycle of a project from requirements to maintenance, including invoicing and payments, in order to write a system that they needed in my LoCh (Language of Choice).  And as you note, having published works and testimonials opens pathways from interested customers to you, as it has for me.

On the other hand, I have been to the PADL/POPL/FLoC symposia, and there is quite an interest in academe in your part of the world in functional and logic programming.  Enough interest to send large contingents of presenters and participants to another continent.  "Interest" does not automate the business process, not at all, but where there is interest, it may be a bit easier to put forward the right business case if you listening to the right decision maker with the kind of problems you like to solve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your analysis of my entry.  I concur.</p>
<p>You also wrote: &#8220;This post only reinforces what was already in the back of my mind for a while: The least hard way to earn money and be happy at the same time is to start an own business.&#8221;  I would caution you from my experience: I didn&#8217;t start my business until after I had a customer with a check waiting for a TIN.  On top of that, having a business in functional/logic programming very, very rarely attracts interested customers.  So one must, at times, resort to helping them over and above what they request.  For example, I had to manage the entire life-cycle of a project from requirements to maintenance, including invoicing and payments, in order to write a system that they needed in my LoCh (Language of Choice).  And as you note, having published works and testimonials opens pathways from interested customers to you, as it has for me.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I have been to the PADL/POPL/FLoC symposia, and there is quite an interest in academe in your part of the world in functional and logic programming.  Enough interest to send large contingents of presenters and participants to another continent.  &#8220;Interest&#8221; does not automate the business process, not at all, but where there is interest, it may be a bit easier to put forward the right business case if you listening to the right decision maker with the kind of problems you like to solve.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does the World need another Scheme system? by User links about "clojure" on iLinkShare</title>
		<link>http://www.ventonegro.org/2008/05/does-the-world-need-another-scheme-system/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>User links about "clojure" on iLinkShare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Misuse of technology, XML case by bogdan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bogdan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not keen on xml. But in some cases the easiest format isn't the most efficient. 

A first guess would be that it's just some serialized form. As long as it isn't too slow for the application, whatever works will suffice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not keen on xml. But in some cases the easiest format isn&#8217;t the most efficient. </p>
<p>A first guess would be that it&#8217;s just some serialized form. As long as it isn&#8217;t too slow for the application, whatever works will suffice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bibliography of Programming Languages Implementation by ventonegro</title>
		<link>http://www.ventonegro.org/2008/07/bibliography-of-programming-languages-implementation/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>ventonegro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mario, Peter, thanks for your contributions!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Bibliography of Programming Languages Implementation by Peter Bex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Bex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's also &lt;a href="http://www.cs.brown.edu/~sk/Publications/Books/ProgLangs/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Programming Languages: Application and Interpretation&lt;/a&gt; by Shriram Krishnamurthi, which has been on my reading list for a long time, but haven't got around to. It looks quite promising; he implements several interpreters for mini-languages using Scheme.

Cheers,
Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also <a href="http://www.cs.brown.edu/~sk/Publications/Books/ProgLangs/" rel="nofollow">Programming Languages: Application and Interpretation</a> by Shriram Krishnamurthi, which has been on my reading list for a long time, but haven&#8217;t got around to. It looks quite promising; he implements several interpreters for mini-languages using Scheme.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Peter</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bibliography of Programming Languages Implementation by mario</title>
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		<dc:creator>mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alex,

Nice list. Here's another item: http://chicken.wiki.br/Internals -- describes some things about the implementation of Chicken.

Best wishes,
Mario</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex,</p>
<p>Nice list. Here&#8217;s another item: <a href="http://chicken.wiki.br/Internals" rel="nofollow">http://chicken.wiki.br/Internals</a> &#8212; describes some things about the implementation of Chicken.</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
Mario</p>
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